The weird and confusing world of “CIAParker”

I used to know this guy in college who was a true social chameleon. He could adapt to any situation and interact with almost anyone. Of course, this required him to lie about himself from time to time, and he did it more often when interacting with women he wanted to impress. He was employed when the girl in front of him talked about money. He was unemployed when the girl showed hints of being all about fighting “the man”. He grew up in the inner city with tough girls and out in the country with small town girls. It was like watching performance art.

There is a woman who appears at almost every anti-vaccine blog, in the comments section, and displays a similar ability to adapt to the situation. The only problem with her approach is that we can see what she wrote previously, and we can confront her statements with her own statements. One week she had X disease cause by vaccines, natch. The next week, she had some other disease, also caused by vaccines. A few weeks ago, smallpox was never eradicated. Rather, it was changed to chickenpox and, thus, is still around. Last week, smallpox was eradicated, but the vaccine used caused more deaths than smallpox did.

You can see the kind of game she plays.

Not only that, but she tells anyone who’ll listen that vaccines have zapped her energy, that she can’t work anymore, but she writes on and on and on in comments sections. And, judging by the time stamps in those comments, she does this for hours at a time, even days. And when someone points out to her that she sure seems animated for a person who is so devoid of energy, she then blames vaccines for her anxiety and her willingness to risk her life to tell others about the dangers of vaccines.

Perhaps the icing on the chameleon cake is that this woman is a lawyer when she needs to, then she’s something in the medical field (e.g. a nurse), and then she pulls out some other degree when her own dubious comments about vaccines are challenged.

Let’s put all that aside and really dive into the strange and twisted world this woman lives in. Hers is a world where serious diseases like whooping cough and H. influenzae meningitis can be treated easily with Vitamin C. Hers is a world where her autistic child is worse off than the children who have complications from vaccine-preventable diseases. That’s right, autism is much worse to her than a child who loses limbs from meningitis or loses their hearing or dies.

She’s one of those parents who should walk away from their child before she does something stupid, rather than just writing tons of stupid.

I mean, check this out:

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CIA Parker hit all the anti-vaccine talking points, didn’t she? She does it a lot. Vaccines cause death, destruction, mayhem, peanut allergies, multiple sclerosis, cancer, and, of course, autism in her world. It’s a scary, dark world of hers.

I don’t know about you, but I’d rather live in a world lit up by truth and reality, where the light of science scares away people like her into hiding and only spouting out that garbage.

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25 thoughts on “The weird and confusing world of “CIAParker”

  1. I’m not entirely clear on why you are devoting so much time and energy in this particular woman. She has nothing of relevance to say.

  2. Unfortunately, there are people in the world who will fall for the lies of lying liars who lie. That is why we have con artists. I do believe, however, that the level of lying for this ciaparker person is a a pathological level.

  3. This tale is actually the most disturbing thing I’ve seen spring forth from Cynthia Parker’s head in some time. It has “I’ll show you!” written all over it.

  4. I’m engaging CIA Parker right now on yet blog.

    She has a child who is diagnosed with an ASD, who is, of course, “vaccine-damaged”. Several weeks ago she expressed her desire to have her child contract measles and a few hours ago she expressed her desire to have her child contract pertussis…because she believes in “natural immunity” and has no trust in vaccines.

    I’ve encountered some really emotionally disturbed individuals on the blogs where I post comments, but none who is so vile. I’ve asked her to refrain from referring to her special needs child as “vaccine-damaged” and asked her to get some professional help for her emotional problems.

  5. I admit that I find Ms. Parker’s dismissal of harms from VPDs very distressing. Her attempts to blame the parents (who gave tylenol, or did not give vitamin C) – or poverty – for deaths or damage to those children are extremely problematic.

    I don’t know about others, but I find those kinds of statements more painful than the personal insults anti-vaccine activists sometimes use.

    • @Dorit – she does have a “blame the victim” mentality & most certainly takes great pleasure in pointing out that those that die probably deserved it, because they had “dysfunctional immune systems” or as you pointed out, received Tylenol, etc.

      If she & her family (as she has also claimed multiple direct family members reacted poorly to every single vaccine they’ve ever received) had actually had this occur – someone would have taken and interest and created a study around it…..not to mention her own personal story with her child (which seems to change and morph with every re-telling – up to and including her ignoring her child screaming for days & self-diagnosing encephalitis from a HepB vaccination that she isn’t even sure her child received – though she claims her child got it over her objections).

      A sad, strange and very mentally ill woman.

      • Isn’t this more of an indictment of our shambles of a mental health care system?
        Previously, people with obvious mental problems were treated, even against their own will. Now, it’s claimed that they have a right to be mentally ill.
        As a result, we have people like these anti-vaxers, “militia” groups engaging federal government agents due to conspiracy theory based views (two from those “militia” groups gunning down Vegas law enforcement officers), school, mall and theater shootings and far too many mentally ill homeless persons wandering the streets undiagnosed or treated.

        Still, one point was valid, in a certain context.
        “Last week, smallpox was eradicated, but the vaccine used caused more deaths than smallpox did.”
        Yep. The smallpox vaccine has killed more people than smallpox has – since smallpox was eradicated. 😉
        It’s also driven new antiviral treatments, as some health practitioners and military still receive the smallpox vaccine (I did twice in the military and once as a child).
        But, the alleged point is no point at all, it’s the usual delusional thinking of conflating two different times, different health care capabilities and considering both periods of history as the same. Ignoring the advent of antibiotics, ignoring the advances in medicine and essentially inventing a temporal admixture of nonsense to “prove” something.
        I guess next week, she’ll go on about how modern medicine has cured the vapors, as no woman has suffered from that condition since vitamins were discovered, or some similar claptrap.

        Frankly, the only thing these people do actually prove is that they are a clear and present danger to the nation and themselves, as well as proving to all that our mental health care system is no longer even vaguely effective.
        At least, not since we disassembled our state mental hospital system in favor of a never funded community based mental health care system.

        • Parker would not qualify for involuntary commitment, “then” or now. She has a borderline personality disorder (narcissistic type, IMO), which is not really treatable. Look around you. These people are as common dirt and they are not acting out to inflict bodily harm on themselves or others.

          The sad thing is that Parker has a special needs child and she neglects that child when she goes on her frequent marathon commenting binges. She also posts frequently on the clown blog, where anything goes, where no opinion is too outrageous…and where no “statement of fact” is challenged.

          She’s been banned at the Shot of Prevention blog due to her use of dozens of sock puppets.

          • “frequent marathon commenting binges.”

            And then she is quiet for a while, probably that period she assumes is part of her complaints that vaccines “zapped her energy, that she can’t work anymore,” This is the type of behavior we would see in a relative, one that was diagnosed as bipolar.

            Her behavior put her family through hell and back. They did get her confined and treated after a very scary psychotic break (her mother called 911). She came out of the county hospital much better after seeing a real psychiatrist and getting medication. But she decide a homeopath* was better so she did not go to the outpatient clinic. Her family had no power to force her because she was not a “danger to others or herself.” The latter turned out to be wrong because she spiraled down further and committed suicide.

            This is why I keep telling Ms. Parker to go psych services of her area. Not for her, but for her family.

            * Going through her things (she was also a hoarder) I found her notebooks on her treatment by the homeopath. He had her going through all sorts of nonsense, it was just criminal. Remember, Ms. Parker is very fond of homeopathy.

            • It’s possible that Parker has a bipolar disorder superimposed on her borderline personality disorder, Chris.

              http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=210663

              I’m still convinced that her manipulative behaviors, her bids for attention, her using people as pawns, her frequent marathon commenting binges and her downright ugly comments, are indicative of her personality disorder. (BTW, her recent hiatus was because she was away on vacation, according to her posts on the clown blog).

              • There is nothing that says it has to just be one diagnosis. She is definitely someone who needs professional help.

              • By the way there are some strange coincidences with that mother and Ms. Parker. The woman had been a lawyer who got married around age forty, so she was later in age but really wanted the baby and to be a perfect mother.

                Ms. Parker was not only a lawyer, but had a PhD in Spanish. She had been a very driven woman. From what I read she is close to my age, yet her child is a full ten years younger than my middle child. And I had my first child when I was almost thirty one. Obviously there was something that went wrong, and she lost control somewhere.

                I can kind of understand. I thought my kids would automatically be perfect and brilliant, since I was in a male dominated profession, and not doing too bad (my small engineering department class started with seventy students in our junior year, only thirty three graduated… I was happy to be in the middle of the male dominated pack). I figured if I was smart, my kids would also be that way. I played German tapes for my firstborn while he was in the high chair, but then it turned out he had a severe speech disorder and would need lots of therapy to speak his native language. I had a kid with medical issues, and my world turned upside down.

                My motto was (and is): I used to be intelligent, but then I had kids.

                In other words I learned to listen to folks who were actually trained in the appropriate fields. First neurologists, then speech therapists, then teachers, then cardiologists, and on and on, including psychologists. The difference between myself and both Ms. Parker and Ms. Wachenheim is that I was willing to learn and listen to the folks with the requisite training and education.

                Though even now I wonder about my mental health in that I really want to counter anti-vaccine rhetoric, which is how I spend a bit of my online time. I have learned to choose my battles. I have stopped registering for news sites (since that is often too time consuming) and I don’t do Facebook (mostly to stay out of family squabbles).

                Well at least my college aged kids (even the one with learning disabilities) remind me of my lapses of intelligence whenever they can! Though middle child, who graduates soon in math, and I can bore everyone else to tears when we start talking math… Euler was the awesome!

        • Previously, people with obvious mental problems were treated, even against their own will.

          And systemic abuse of the system led to a wave of reforms in the 1970s. Unfortunately, some of those – such as the “informal” admission – have gone by the wayside, not as a matter of law but as one of structural changes in the mental health and reimbursement systems.

          All the same, given the story of her interactions with the educational system (which frankly reads to me as though if she doesn’t get exactly what she wants, she’s going to make sure that anything else fails), it wouldn’t surprise me if she had a police-escorted date with an ED psych eval one of these days.

          • When I read that story, I was wondering if she was actually the cause of the meltdowns. For all we know she may have a Munchhausen fixation that her child is more disabled than in reality.

            One of my sisters had a child in her 2nd grade classroom with a demanding mother. There was no real formal diagnosis of the child, and she seemed to pretty normal and performing at grade level. But the mother insisted on untimed tests with certain parameters. The school bowed to her demands and my sister administered tests as requested. The last I talked to her the mother was still threatening the school district, possibly because the results were unremarkable. She was not clear on the details.

            • @Chris – there was a horrible story that my wife shared with me this weekend. A woman who convinced herself that she had caused her baby severe brain damage (merely from having her fall over a couple of times)…despite numerous doctors and her family (and friends) telling her the baby was fine, she was entirely convinced that she had “ruined” her child.

              As a result, she strapped the baby to her chest and jumped from the top of a building, killing herself.

              The sad irony to the story – the baby survived, since she was cushioned by the body of her mother. She just took her first steps as well, and is a perfectly healthy child.

              • I saw that story. It was in the science section of last Tuesday’s New York Times.

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