Yes, you should be concerned that measles is back

When we last met, I told you how the anti-vaccine crowd were not the only ones to blame for the current resurgence in vaccine-preventable diseases. One of you mentioned how pediatricians who cater to anti-science views are to be blamed as well. I almost forgot about the likes of Dr. Jay Gordon and Dr. Bob Sears, and others. Thanks for reminding me. The one thing I did not do was absolve the anti-vaccine activists from any blame. Certainly, when you are outspoken about things that have been proven to be wrong to you, when you write about them here and there and post videos on YouTube and other places to continue to try and convince people of lies, then there is plenty of blame to come your way.

Hat tip to “Lilady” for a pointing me to this ridiculous blog post over at Age of Autism, the daily web newspaper of the non-existent autism epidemic. Remember, for them to continue to exist there must be an autism epidemic, and for them to continue to be supported by anti-vaccine luminaries like Andrew Jeremy Wakefield, this “epidemic” must be caused by the MMR vaccine. They certainly walk a fine line by also blaming thimerosal, which was never in the MMR vaccine. Look at it this way: If any of the thousands of studies done to find a causal link between thimerosal and autism were proven to be true, then the MMR-autism causal theory would get blown out of the water. It’s a fine line indeed.

Anyway, the blog post in question is titled with the ridiculous question of “Should we be concerned”? (No question mark on their title, though.) It is written by the first half of this pair of American Loons. The reasonable person’s answer to that question is “Yes! Yes, we should be concerned. I mean, my God, we almost eradicated the goddamned virus, why the hell is it back?” But the authors at AoA and a majority of their readers don’t seem like reasonable people for me. So, of course, articles like that will find a natural home in that blog.

The post starts and continues will all manner of errors, misunderstandings and misinformation about measles:

“Prior to 1960, most children in the United States and Canada caught measles. Complications from the disease were unlikely. Previously healthy children usually recovered without incident.”

Notice how he makes it out to be that measles is a perfectly normal thing that every child got through. It’s not normal. It’s a viral infection. It causes complications and even death. You forgot to mention that, you lunatic! The post is also filled with convoluted reasoning like this:

“Authorities also claim that unvaccinated people are contracting the disease and spreading it to others. However, a study published this year in Clinical Infectious Diseases showed that people who are fully vaccinated against measles can spread the disease to other people who are fully vaccinated against measles. Thus, vaccinated people are vectors for the disease.”

Did you catch it? He is trying to tell us that the unvaccinated are not to blame because there were a handful of cases where vaccinated people caught it and spread it. Like the two things are mutually exclusive. Of course vaccinated will still catch measles. The vaccine is not 100% effective. There will always be those for whom the vaccine doesn’t trigger immunity. But, because people are willingly not getting vaccinated, the number of non-immune is bigger than it has to be.

Then there is this enormous misunderstanding of how relative risk works:

“It is also important to note that in nearly every outbreak of measles, large percentages of the cases occur in people who were fully vaccinated against the disease. For example, in 1988, 69% of all school-aged children in the U.S. who contracted measles were adequately vaccinated. In 1995, 56% of all measles cases in the U.S. occurred in people who were previously vaccinated.”

In every single outbreak of a disease for which the large majority of people are immunized, there will be a majority of people who are immunized and are cases. However, when you break it down to relative risks, those who are vaccinated are less likely to be part of the outbreak. In 1995, there were 301 confirmed cases of measles in the United States. That’s an important number because, at the time, it was the lowest number of cases in the country since we started keeping more accurate records of measles in 1912.

But facts and figures and statistics don’t seem to bother Mr. Miller, the “health pioneer” and “independent researcher.” Also, vaccines don’t save anyone:

“Today, most developing nations require their infants to receive several inoculations, including a measles vaccine at 9 months of age. They have very high vaccine coverage rates (a percentage of the target population that has been vaccinated), yet their infant mortality rates are dreadfully unacceptable. For example, in 2011 Gambia, a poor country in Africa, required its infants to receive multiple vaccines, vaccinated 90% to 96% of its infants (91% received measles vaccines), yet 58 of every 1000 infants still died before their first birthdays. Ghana also required its infants to receive several vaccines, vaccinated 91% to 98% of its infants (91% received measles vaccines) yet also had a dismal infant mortality rate: 52 of every 1000 infants died before their first birthdays.”

Ah, yes, silly us. We thought that children who have to deal with malnourishment, malaria, HIV/AIDS and all sorts of other existential threats could do without measles, but Mr. Miller smashes all causes of death together to tell us, basically, that we should stop vaccinating because children are still dying. The level of flawed reasoning is astounding. “Yet 58 of every 1000 infants still died before their first birthdays,” he writes. You know what they DID NOT die from? Measles. Mr. Miller doesn’t tell us how much higher the death toll would be if these children also had to face vaccine-preventable diseases.

Another frequent reader of this blog, “Todd W.”, decided to step into the murky waters of the comments section, and I applaud him for that. But you can read for yourself that it is hopeless. Immediately, his credentials were questioned, and they wondered if he was being paid to comment. He was told that he reads “like a CDC commercial”. (Have you seen any commercials brought to you by CDC?) But, again, that’s par for the course for the quacks and hacks that know very well how to manipulate words and numbers to please their crowd.

Don’t be fooled. Age of Autism is all about pleasing the kind of people who want to believe in monsters under the bed. They are now even catering to the “chemtrail” crowd:


14 thoughts on “Yes, you should be concerned that measles is back

  1. I read an educated person spouting off about how “a genetic epidemic” was impossible, and[she] didn’t realize she was presupposeing an epidemic exists. Also apparently didn’t understand genetics.

  2. The Media Editor at AoA has nightly updates to alert her flying monkey squad to post their inane comments on multiple articles and blogs.

    Ms. Dachel usually posts her off-topic Spamming comments in a hit-and-run fashion, before her nightly media review and links is posted on her own blog and on AoA, to allow the AoA B Team the opportunity to monopolize the articles and blogs, after Anne beats a hasty retreat.

    Recently, Dachel has stayed away (maybe because “other commenters” spot her Spam and deride her tawdry journalism).

    Here, the B Team made an attempt to substitute for the bot and met with (very) limited success:

  3. Neil Z. Miller’s AoA piece is the companion piece to Mr. Stone’s piece, here:

    I do give Todd W. a lot of credit for posting comments on the clown blog…if only to see how far afield the go to “prove” that their crappy research and crappy statistics are correct.

    One of the AoA Regulars posted this link to Frompovich’s recent foray into explaining the multiple measles outbreaks in the United States, with special emphasis on measles outbreaks in California. To say it is batsh!t crazy is an understatement:

    Scroll down to see how Frompovich concludes her article…

    “This Writer’s Conclusions

    Notwithstanding all the above, there’s an improbable question this writer finds herself asking, which is: “Have the measles and other vaccines become weaponized since vaccines, in theory at least, should be protecting and not allowing infection(s) or negatively impacting events to harm infants, toddlers, teens, and adults?”

    Contraction of measles indicates the immune system has been compromised—if not addled by ineffective and/or unsafe mandated childhood vaccines with neurotoxins and toxic chemicals. Otherwise, measles and other infectious diseases would not occur in partially- or fully-vaccinated vaccinees, who contract and can spread diseases for which they have been vaccinated against, e.g., pertussis—whooping cough.

    No wonder California health authorities are perplexed. They cannot believe that their fairytales about vaccines are not holding true. If you ask me, I think everyone needs a reality check when it comes to what amounts to a religious belief system that perpetuates the vaccine meme.

    Finally, I’d like to introduce another dimension as to why infectious diseases may be on the upswing. The culprit is chemtrails—those chemical trails in the sky sprayed as part of weather geo-engineering. – See more at:….”

  4. For example, in 1988, 69% of all school-aged children in the U.S. who contracted measles were adequately vaccinated.

    Um, no, Neil, “appropriately.” What was introduced in 1989?

    Then again, I suppose cherry-picking 57% of the total cases helps, too.

  5. He is trying to tell us that the unvaccinated are not to blame because there were a handful of cases where vaccinated people caught it and spread it.

    One case, with zero tertiary cases. I gave up on that steamer when Miller started suggesting that measles had magically become less virulent.

  6. Thanks for the mention, Reuben. I initially just skimmed over Miller’s post and that bit about Gambia and Ghana caught my eye. I had to try commenting, even stopped letting any of my comments through years ago. I’m surprised they’re letting me.

    • Though they are still being nasty towards you. A study from 1975? What?

      What is Benedetta going on about with:

      You don’t know the “true” story about the Aruba MMR now do you?

      The mumps part of this type of MMR vaccine was causing meningitis in Canada, so Canada banned it.

      Aruba? I hope she means Urabe, which has never been used in the USA. They keep bringing it up like it is relevant to Americans.

      And the old studies? I think it is so that they can also ignore the 1990 American measles epidemic, which mostly hit low income populations because they did not have access to vaccines. Like in California:
      Pediatric hospital admissions for measles. Lessons from the 1990 epidemic.

      And prompted the creation of the Every Child by Two organization:

      • I actually believe that “Benedetta” is dyslexic and thinks the Aruba strain is contained in the Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine, in spite of the fact that she is referring to the Urabe strain of mumps virus, which was once contained in MMR vaccines, formerly licensed (and still licensed) in some MMR vaccines used in other countries.

        You’ll notice she only posts comments on the clown blog, where she can be assured that no one will correct the factoids she presents as facts and where on one will question her fixation on Kawasaki disease, being implicated in her child(rens) autism diagnoses.

        At one time, I had pity for her because I assumed she has extraordinary limited intelligence and/or was foreign born and deprived of the opportunity to learn some basic English language skills. That is not the case.

        She has often written about her college days and her career as a substitute teacher in Kentucky…where she was born. She’s at least a third generation Kentuckian.

        The skill set and the language skills to qualify for licensing as a substitute teach in Kentucky, is best left up to the imagination of the reader.

    • I’m surprised they’re letting me.

      You’re surprised they’re open to dogpiling you?

      • Well, considering that several years ago, they stopped letting any of my comments through, no matter how polite or on-topic I was, I’m a bit surprised they’re letting my comments through now. It is tiring, though, especially as people go way off-topic. Too much to nail down each point.

  7. Yes, it is interesting how anti-vaxxers pick and choose their “supporting evidence.” Ignore the large US measles outbreak in 1989-1991 that put 11,000 people in the hospital and 120+ in their graves. Ignore the last few years of outbreaks in the States, where 80-90% of the cases were in the unvaccinated or unknown status population. How convenient!

  8. I don’t know how any rational person can visit AOA and not claw their eyes out.

  9. Kudos to Todd W., who ventured on to AoA to post comments.

    Mr. Stone and Mr. Miller engaged in blatant cherry picking and quote mining, without providing the link to the research paper they are quoting….here:

    There’s a “new” classification of adverse events (fevers leading to febrile seizures following MMR vaccinations, which do not require medical intervention), according to the authors of that research study, which the dynamic duo of Stone and Miller managed to elegantly redefine:

    Fever is classified as a “mild problem” after MMR vaccine…not an “adverse event” and certainly not a “serious adverse event”.

    Febrile seizures (triggered by fever) are not indicative of serious neurological problems. And, of course, fevers are higher and more sustained with actually contracting measles-mumps-rubella:

    I could go on…and on…and on…why we don’t listen to crank bloggers and crank researchers, when it comes to accurate information about MMR vaccine…but why bother. They only come up with new lies and new cherry-picked articles. Pathetic.

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